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Read & Download Fall or Dodge in Hell characters à E-book, or Kindle E-pub ✓ Neal Stephenson Neal Stephenson ✓ 9 Read Th itself An eternal afterlife the Bitworld is created in which humans continue to exist as digital soulsBut this brave new immortal world is not the Utopia it might first seem Fall or Dodge in Hell is pure unadulterated fun a grand drama of analog and digital man and machine angels and demons gods and followers the finite and the eternal In this exhilarating epic Neal Stephenson raises profound existential uestions and touches on the revolutionary breakthroughs that are transforming our future Combining the technological philosophical and spiritual in one grand myth he delivers a mind blowing speculative literary saga for the modern ag. Fall or Dodge in Hell is a book that s hard to talk about because I find it basically fractally bad at any level I look at it there s an interesting idea shot through with some fatal flaw and so if I let myself I could go on at far too much length about any one of its problems At the highest level it s a story about uploading human consciousness and the creation and organization of virtual realms told with a tech bro s certainty in technology and obliviousness to anything else plus also the casual misogyny then there s the story told about the uploaded that attempts to be biblical without an understanding of morality and fantastic without ever surpassing the level of 80s Tolkien imitators It s too bad the book wants to be Paradise Lost instead of Frankenstein there would be a really good metaphor in something like this pieced together from various half envisioned ideas and brought to life as a monstrous whole that its creator cannot control That s not to say you couldn t enjoy reading this the certainty and declarativeness of the writing can carry you through a lot if you don t think too much about it but it would be best if you ve never read these ideas before or if you re looking for something to reinforce your particular technological eschatology or if you re a teenager with time on your hands On the other hand let me offer some alternatives that have done better service to these ideas First Peter Hamilton s Void Trilogy if you want long spanning future history and an ever expanding realm of uploaded consciousnesses this has you covered in spades Alternately Elizabeth Bear s Grail it s much shorter full of excellently realized characters and deals thoughfully with the ethics of different ways of being human minds And finally Matthew Stover s Heroes Die if you want a fantasy adventure in a world where modern people insert themselves to create epic drama without regard for the other inhabitants it s only tangentially similar but even its dystopian capitalist hellscape is well realized than the realistic political events going on in Fall So yeah there s a lot better stuff you could be reading instead don t spend your time on this unless you have to

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Read & Download Fall or Dodge in Hell characters à E-book, or Kindle E-pub ✓ Neal Stephenson Neal Stephenson ✓ 9 Read The #1 New York Times bestselling author of Seveneves Anathem Reamde and Cryptonomicon returns with a wildly inventive and entertaining science fiction thriller Paradise Lost by way of Phillip K Dick that unfolds in the near future in parallel worldsIn his youth Richard “Dodge” Forthrast founded Corporation 9592 a gaming company that made him a multibillionaire Now in his middle years Dodge appreciates his comfortable unencumbered life managing his myriad business interests and spending time with his beloved niece Zula and her young daughter SophiaOne beautiful autumn day while he undergoes a routine medical procedure something goes. I m a go between On the one side is Elmo Shepherd who believes that brains can be simulated and that once the simulation is switched on you ll reboot in exactly the same state as when you last lost consciousness Like waking up from a nap On the other side is Jake who believes in the existence of an ineffable spirit that cannot be re created in computer code What do you believe Enoch Jake s opinion is based on a theology I do not agree with But like a lot of theologies it can do duty as a cracked mirror or a smudged lens through which we might be able to glimpse things that are informative I don t know about an ineffable spirit but I do have a suspicion that there are aspects of who we are that will not come back when our brains are scanned and simulated by the likes of Elmo It s not clear to me that memory will work for example when its physical referents are gone It s not clear that the brain will know what to do with itself in the absence of a body Particularly a body with sensory organs feeding it a coherent picture of the world Bitworld meets Meatspace in Neal Stephenson s latest novel Those of you who were around in the 70s and 80s may remember an ad campaign for Miller Lite Two manly men would stage a faux argument over the best uality of the product Less filling one would say the other responding with tastes great the first repeating Less filling but louder and back and forth they would go It was cute And pretty successful for the makers of that product For a cinematic image you might consider Faye Dunaway in Chinatown She s my sister She s my daughter She s my sister She s my daughter You might find yourself in a similar back and forth hopefully without the slapping with Stephenson s latest novel Its science fiction It s fantasy It s science fiction It s fantasy Stop yelling You re both right Calm down Have a drink on me but please not that Miller Lite swillNeal Stephenson image from his Goodreads pageStephenson begins where his 2011 novel Reamde left off Despite carrying forward some characters Fall is not really a seuel but a totally different book and can most definitely be read as a stand alone In the earlier book Richard Forthrast was the creator of a massively popular multiplayer on line game that was hacked by people whose game was theft and led to a rollicking action adventure tale that paralleled the real world with the immersive on line gaming experience In Fall a sixty something Forthrast goes to an outpatient facility for what is supposed to be simple procedure There are complications and Forthrast s game over announcement is played But hold on a minute On checking his will his bestie one Corvallis or C from the earlier book learns that Forthrast had left instructions for just what to do in case of such an event Along with other billionaire sorts known as Eutropians he had ensured that his brain would be preserved and then when the tech was available scanned with the best available means and uploaded to the cloud Doubt there are any harp wielding angels there Serial sectioning of a brain image from WikipediaOne of the things that Neal Stephenson does best is walk through the steps necessary to get from notion to reality in a very logical scientific manner He is for hard sci fi what Arthur C Clarke was in the 20th century limiting himself to the scientifically possible although he does take liberties from time to time as in his explanation for the moon s sudden demise in SevenEves So what tech will be needed to scan brains What sort of algorithms might be needed to make sense of the scans What sort of power might be needed both in computational and real world energy reuirements and how might that be provided How would this all be paid for Great stuff Love thisStephenson gives serious consideration to what the experience might be like for a person a consciousness an entity a what that finds that their death is not uite so permanent as they d thought and now find themselves in a totally alien environment floating in a sea of chaos with little clue as to how to move on in any sense of the word How much does memory define personality Can you have a meaningful being without a meaningful place These discussions are going on as we speak read Forthrast is eventually scanned and uploaded Stephenson makes his best guess as to what this might be like and it s game onThis is not so far out a notion as you might expect There is considerable interest among the silicon valley gazillionaires in life extension through technology A recent NY Times article told of attempts to revive decapitated pig brains I will leave you to construct your own joke out of that The article link in EXTRA STUFF also addresses the approaches to recording the brain s layout and activity All for neuro experiments that have immediate medical application of course but you have to know that such work will be gobbled up by those with the means to advance the work from the theoretical to the actualStephenson s stories tend to take place over protracted periods This one covers about a century well in real world time anyway and we are kept abreast of some of the ongoing social and technological changes that occur over this period In BitWorld time sometimes runs faster and sometimes slower than it does in real time Changes are considerable I expect this also mirrors the author s experience of how the writing of a book progressesStephenson is also fond of carrying forward character and institutional names from earlier work That continues here The mysterious and very long lived Enoch Root for example shows up having survived untold ages in earlier books Will he snuff it in this one There are plenty of other links to the past I did not keep track He is also fond of cryptography That shows up in Fall as well although mostly in a symbolic form The first third or so of the book takes place primarily in what is referred to as meatspace in the extant culture It is set a bit into the future but not really all that much In addition to looking at the technological possibilities for the digital extension of life Stephenson offers a harsh satire of a United States that has become divided between the coastal educated better off parts of the country and Ameristan a vast flyover area generated by the Facebookization of the nation to the point where truthers insist that a fake nuclear bombing of Moab Utah took place despite the very obvious provable truth that it did not This dumbing down of the population often deliberately and for dark purpose has created a need for actual paid humans to serve as editors for people s internet feeds It helps to be well off Those not so fortunate are left with an internet that is referred to as the Miasma Religious kookery comes in for a look very much a part of the triumph of disinformation and know nothingism It is way way too resonant with contemporary trends in digital media and the impacts of those on our sociopolitical reality for comfort PC Mag What s the larger message you were trying to get across through the Moab hoaxNS Well I try not to be too message y because I think that people tend to turn on their deflector shields when they see that coming But actually when I originally wrote an earlier version of the Moab section it was prior to the events of the 2016 election and at the time I sort of was patting myself on the back for really being on top of things and predicting the future And then I discovered that the future was way ahead of me from PC Mag interviewThe middle of the book offers a back and forth between Meatspace and BitWorld until it is taken over almost entirely by the goings on in the digital sphere at which point it becomes to my taste anyway less filling Back in the day Ace published sci fi books in pairs They were called Ace Doubles Read one maybe 125 pps then literally flip the book over and read an entirely other novella maybe another 125 pages You don t need to flip this one over and it would take particularly fit wrists to manage it in any case but it really is two books in one The second is a fantasy with battling gods flaming swords giants angels talking birds a fortress rebirth a uest secrets familiar elements of many a fantasyIn Reamde Stephenson alternated between the real world and the gaming environment The stakes are a bit higher in Fall as the alternating universes may flip between life and after life worlds for the reader but for the characters there is no such back and forth The notions of consciousness inside the game T Rain and the consciousness in the Bitworld of Fall when you step back from it do not seem all that different as even if one passes on in Bitworld one s connectome map of a brain s neural connections can just be uploaded again So maybe the two are not so different after all Just rebooting within one sphere of existence instead of going back and forth between bits and bods It would take a much larger review than even this one to go in any detail into what happens in BitWorld Suffice it to say and it should be pretty obvious from the title of the book that the first man in Bitworld the shaper of things is cast out of his particular brand of heaven it looks a lot like Iowa no really The D Aulaires Greek and Norse myth booksIn the beginning of the novel much is made of the D Aulaire books about Greek and Norse mythology You would do well to keep both volumes at least near to hand for tracking which names have been lifted from which book and how they relate And let s not forget the good old fashioned Bible old Testament in which Lucifer is cast down from heaven a directional joke is made of this There will be smiting Adam and Eve put in an appearance the firmament comes in for a bit of attention There is a lot of destruction rebirth hubris people failing to make it to the promised land And then they get reborn after incurring their personal game overs so a single character can have several iterations and names as time in Bitworld moves along during their absence Maybe in a book a third the length I would have been up to making a chart but other books await I am sure there is someone out there who has already begun I did not find such a chart on Stephenson s media sites but I suppose it is possible there might be one somewhere in there Regardless it can be fun keeping track of who s who and who was who through their sundry livesThings that bugged me Let s reiterate that I liked this book uite a bit That said is it really necessary for Stephenson books to go on for such duration Unlike Stephen King who has produced a considerable number of doorstops and who will brook no editing Stephenson allows his work to be edited I am told this one came in at least a hundred pages heftier so I take some comfort from the fact that it could have been even longer Also one wonders how a process that is by all indications extraordinarily expensive and is able to accommodate enough people to cause or at least assist in causing a decline of Meatspace population might be sustainable No this toy would have been reserved for the uber wealthy and the rest of us would have been relegated to our minimal single lives slaving away to produce sufficient profits for the one percenters to continue exploiting us forever from their digital realm Turns out in this look anyway you can take it with you What would happen if from catastrophes natural or unnatural the machines were shut down I could certainly see an angry Meatspace global mob doing all in their reach to cut the power cord to the BitWorld masters Tough for the post mortal to feel totally comfy about their eternal prospects if eternity were reliant on such variables But I guess I shouldn t be too irked at such things The point of the book is the ideas and those are explored wonderfully What might a digital afterlife look like on an individual basis and a communal one Any book informed as this one is by the author s conversations with the likes of Jaron Lanier originator of virtual reality among other things and technology historian George Dyson is bound to keep your gray cells whirring On top of that Stephenson s extension of the current madness in media looking at the impact of our current sociotechnical trends on civility the organization of our nation and on sanity itself is uite wonderful and hopefully not too prescient Finally while his bridge crossing to fantasy from hard sci fi seems odd it is also very daring and it is clear he had a lot of fun mixing sundry mythologies into a pretty interesting literary brew regardless of whether you prefer to think it tastes great or is less filling Dodge may suffer a significant demise in Fall or Dodge in Hell but you are unlikely to join him I expect most readers will instead feel uplifted by the fun of tracking myths and the intellectual excitement of considering the large ideas Stephenson has brought to bear In short Fall or Dodge in Hell is for readers a bit of heaven Review posted 759Pub dates 6419 hardcover 6220 trade paperbackNovember 28 2019 Fall is named to the NY Times list of 100 Notable Books of 2019EXTRA STUFF has been moved to the comments section below the review

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Read & Download Fall or Dodge in Hell characters à E-book, or Kindle E-pub ✓ Neal Stephenson Neal Stephenson ✓ 9 Read Irrevocably wrong Dodge is pronounced brain dead and put on life support leaving his stunned family and close friends with difficult decisions Long ago when a much younger Dodge drew up his will he directed that his body be given to a cryonics company now owned by enigmatic tech entrepreneur Elmo Shepherd Legally bound to follow the directive despite their misgivings Dodge’s family has his brain scanned and its data structures uploaded and stored in the cloud until it can eventually be revivedIn the coming years technology allows Dodge’s brain to be turned back on It is an achievement that is nothing less than the disruption of dea. This is a very hard book to review but one thing is absolutely trueI m absolutely blown away by this book Ameristan Lol MOAB lol This is definitely one of Neal Stephenson s better books Just for the ideas and the great twisting of several tales in one I m already looking forward to a glorious re read He does lead us down a few winding paths that eventually turn out to be VERY important to the whole and I admit to laughing out loud several times when the important bits bit me on the butt All told it s the hundreds of wonderful details ideas technological problems and the nature of our world of Lies and Truth in the Miasma Stephenson s term for the future of the Internet that make this an extremely memorable book but it s the depth of the themes that go well beyond the obvious Milton s Paradise Lost that make me grin like an idiotMy favorite is the whole perception as reality by way of Philip K Dick hitting all the big points AND even throwing the scholars a bone by setting up a fantastic Manichean Heresy Real God and the Flawed God and the temperance of Sophia And for you PKD fans look no further than Divine Invasion The other obvious theme connecting it to Paradise Lost is actually a subversive red herring There s a big twist to this that makes it a lot like PKD including the paranoia the corruption and the faulty memoriesI came into this kinda expecting a single viewpoint adventure like many old SFs that take on uploaded consciousnesses andor Hell but you know what This is so much better We have many viewpoints great adventures and very little actual Hell except in a you brought this with you sense Kinda awesome when you think about it No cheap theatrics only an in depth issue revolving People doing what People always do Character driven with a lot of added juice Like several ages of mythology run by high speed processors in the ultimate game of Life as an afterlife skirting the edges of a technological singularity and wrapping it all up with a reality based hackathon by way of a Gamer s Ultimate uestI think I see the point here For all of us future afterlifers let s MAKE SURE THE GAME DESIGNERS retain control over it Please No one wants to live an afterlife CONTROLLED BY THE BEAN COUNTERS The book has some great mirroring going on rooting itself in near future meatspace with tons of corporate intrigue funnynasty worldbuilding that put the uality of Truth on trial The whole SF of tackling perception as reality is taken to new heights and multiple threads that keep twining and intertwining in really great ways And then it takes on HUGE significance in the digital realm Nasty significance Lordy The Moab disaster in ways than one is the very thing that sparks the Heaven 20 disaster I loved that The whole mad god theme is great And perfectly in line with regular corporate madness too Why shouldn t we bring all our usual messes into the afterlife We are after all only human even when some of us become gods angels or incarnations of DEATH lolI had such a fun time with this I can t even begin or rather I have begun but I could keep going on foreverLike I said it s a really hard one to review It has a lot of great depth to it that is rather MORE surprising than I ever gave it credit for and this is coming from an avowed fanboy of Stephenson I definitely like it than Seveneves and Reamde I d have to re read Snow Crash and Diamond Age again to see where it ranks by those I will always have Anathem as my primary love tho BUT I think I will have to nom this one for next year s Hugo Just for its sheer audacity and richness


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    [Fall or Dodge in Hell] EBOOK/EPUB This is a very hard book to review but one thing is absolutely trueI'm absolutely blown away by this book Ameristan Lol MOAB lol This is definitely one of Neal Stephenson's better books Just for the ideas and the great twisting of several tales in one I'm already looking forward to a glorious re read He does lead us down a few winding paths that eventually turn out to be VERY important to the whole and I admit to laughing out l

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    [Fall or Dodge in Hell] EBOOK/EPUB Neal Stephenson ✓ 9 Read Read & Download Fall or Dodge in Hell If I wasn’t hoping that death is just an endless dreamless slumber before then I sure am nowRichard ‘Dodge’ Forthrast made billions with the video game company he founded but money doesn’t help him when a routine medical procedure goes sideways and leaves him braindead However Dodge once signed up with a cryonics company to have himself frozen after death and that old legal agreement becomes the impetus for his friends and family

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    [Fall or Dodge in Hell] EBOOK/EPUB Neal Stephenson ✓ 9 Read characters à E-book, or Kindle E-pub ✓ Neal Stephenson So I had some issues with this book overall I liked it but I found it was easier to separate into the good and the badThe Good One of his readable books so no heavy technical nonsense like in cryptonomicon Features the Waterhouses the Shaftoes the Forthrasts and Enoch Root Topic of discussion is really cool as its all about the afterlife Ameristan is the most hilarious thingThe Bad As usual its way too long just under 900 pages Wh

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  • Hardcover
  • 883
  • Fall or Dodge in Hell
  • Neal Stephenson
  • English
  • 10 October 2019
  • 9780062458711